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And now the SciFi Channel original series, SciFi Investigates.

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Throughout history there have been inexplicable phenomena,

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paranormal experiences, mythical creatures, events that defy logic.

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Now SciFi Channel has assembled a team of investigators,

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four individuals with different expertise,

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and very different perspectives.

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Together they will search for the truth behind mysteries old and new.

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Archaeologist Bill Doleman

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How come there's no tangible evidence?

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Crime scene investigator Deborah DeBritney

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Our normal investigator Rich Doleman

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I think that there is secret technology.

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And skeptic Rob Mariano

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Kids finding errors already.

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The team behind SciFi Investigates

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Tonight the team delves deep into the religion of Voodoo.

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For 6000 years its rituals have been a source of mystery and fear.

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The SciFi Investigates team goes to the capital of American Voodoo,

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New Orleans, to uncover evidence and discover the truth for themselves.

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To tell you the truth, it kinda scares me a little bit.

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They'll question Voodoo priestesses.

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You need to be rattled up.

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And try to summon powerful Voodoo spirits from the grave.

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If this isn't magical I don't know what we're qualified.

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Down on the bayou, the investigators go native.

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Who will be possessed?

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They were in a dreamlike state.

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And at a Voodoo ritual, the investigators are put to the test.

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I'm really not afraid of anything, except maybe the occasional snake.

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What dark secrets will be revealed?

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Oh my goodness.

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Rob is like this Voodoo magnet.

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Something felt a little strange.

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Now SciFi Investigates Voodoo.

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My name is Rich Dolan.

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I guess you can say I'm the lead investigator on this particular investigation here in New Orleans.

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We are here to look into Voodoo.

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It's just this belief that there are spirits around you wherever you go.

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Sorting myth from reality is something I do for a living as a researcher of the paranormal and UFOs.

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So my background is well suited to lead this mission.

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We'll be meeting with some Voodoo priestesses and experts

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and participating in some rituals to see what evidence we can uncover regarding the supernatural.

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Then the team will evaluate what we've seen and experienced.

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I want to see if it's legit or not, if what these people are practicing and so many people are following, what's to it?

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I'm Rob Mariano and I'm the skeptic.

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I don't really know what to think about Voodoo.

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To tell you the truth, it kind of scares me a little bit.

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I'm Deputy Brittany. I'm a crime scene technician.

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I come from a really scientific background.

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My initial impression of Voodoo is that it seems like it's something that people really do believe in, but that it may be all in their heads.

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But I'm interested in what exactly comes down to what was fact.

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We've decided to come here on St. John's Eve because it is the most important ceremony in New Orleans, Voodoo.

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Voodoo, of course, that word just comes with an immense amount of baggage about it.

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I'm Bill Dolman and I'm an archaeologist and an anthropologist, so I look at paranormal phenomena from a scientific and a cultural point of view.

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Voodoo is a very important part of New Orleans culture and probably the most famous figure is Marie LeVaux, whose tomb we're going to visit tomorrow.

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Marie LeVaux is really important because she is the patron saint, I guess you could say, of New Orleans, Voodoo.

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So our first mission is to pick out gifts for her on St. John's Eve, something that she would like in order to summon her spirit.

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In this way, we're hoping to make some contact with the supernatural.

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Can I ask you what this is?

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This is Marie LeVaux's altar. Streambed luck to touch it.

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I like to see hard evidence, obviously, for my job on any to look at evidence that actually exists.

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So it's a little strange for me to be doing an investigation that begins with buying gifts for its dead woman.

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I mean, Marie LeVaux is one of the most powerful priestesses in Voodoo, but she lived in the 19th century.

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I want to find out all I can about her role in Voodoo practices.

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If you want to entice her to kind of come out of the spirit realm, you bring a gift that A, comes from your heart, represents your spirit, and B, will be pleasing to her.

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Well, I like that. I think that's a very beautiful image of Marie with her hair wrapped, so I think I'm going to take that if you don't mind.

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I asked the shopkeeper what I might get, and she suggested that I get a mojo bag or what's also called a gree-greed.

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A mojo bag is considered to be magical to Voodoo practitioners because they believe it can help make a wish come true.

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So this should be a good offering for Marie LeVaux.

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And we've been told we don't bring pleasing gifts. She might reject us, which would damage our investigation.

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I have no idea what I'm going to bring Marie LeVaux, and hopefully something jumps out at me.

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I'm getting the stick. What do you got?

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Does it jump out at you?

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I just paid $40 for a stick. I must be out of my mind.

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We're going to see Bloody Mary, and she's going to take us to the grave side of Marie LeVaux, and we're going to offer our gifts. Do we know what we're going to ask?

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I'm asking for help for you, bro.

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Help for me? I need all the help I can get.

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I'm going to ask for help to finish my next book. I need it.

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This is it.

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Symmetry number one.

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This is for Bloody Mary.

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Bloody Mary is a New Orleans priestess, and she's going to be the one that connects us to Marie LeVaux spirit, hopefully.

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If not, I hope she knows something else about Bloody Mary's.

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Why don't you come in, but before you do knock three times, it's a very old way of letting spirits know your intentions are honorable. It's respect.

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Are you a voodoo priestess?

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Yes, I am. I'm a mambo, as well as the voodoo queen.

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And this is the tomb of voodoo queen Marie LeVaux, the number one visited tomb in our city.

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How'd you get your name? Bloody Mary.

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I don't drink them. My name is Mary, and I am a direct descendant of Robert the Bruce, Scottish King.

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Then somewhere along the line became the famous Bloody Mary, and then the other famous one.

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Who calls themselves Bloody Mary? I know she has lineage that dates back to the tutors and whatnot, but it's 2006.

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Open the gates, poppa-loppa, open the way.

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Are you going to show us a ritual?

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I'm going to give you an introduction, spirit-wise, to New Orleans. This is my asson, kind of like the magic wand of voodoo.

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You all need to turn three times counterclockwise.

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I'll let you learn ceremony. Step up to the plate.

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Now take a sip. Spray.

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I don't know what spitting on a tombstone will do, but one in Rome.

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That's an offering to poppa-loppa, the gatekeeper. He's the opener of the gate, helping the spirit world and the physical world intersect.

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This is not disrespectful, and it cleans the tomb at the same time.

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That wasn't a good spray, but that's okay. Keep working on it.

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You need to work on your name.

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How are you doing?

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Very good.

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We have offerings. Place them near those three axes.

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It looks like there's every axis in a set of three.

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The trinity, very important in voodoo, which is the original trinity mother, father, child. Also, it's to open the gates to the spirit world.

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Last night I was at the voodoo shop, and I decided to buy this stick to give as an offering to Marie Gleveau.

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I don't really see how it was appropriate, but there was no way I was buying one of those dolls or a candle.

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I mean, I'm just not a candle type of guy.

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I picked the candle as my gift to Marie Gleveau because, frankly, I liked it, and it was kind of pretty.

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In lieu of what you brought, in a way, I don't think most of them should be left here.

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Bloody Mary didn't really like to stick too much.

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I decided I'd give her my socks hat.

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I mean, how more personal can you get?

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Does any truth to this thing that should make her happy?

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I want you to leave the hat. It's got your sweat. I'm assuming it's your hat.

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It's my hat.

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It's beloved hat.

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I saw the bee for beloved, yeah.

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If I had to judge, his is the best offering.

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But it's not a competition.

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Rob definitely gave himself a pat on the back for leaving his hat and his gift being the only one left behind.

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I could tell at that point Rich was pissed because Rich really put a lot of thought into his gift.

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I brought a candle for Marie Gleveau, which I thought was a very nice gift.

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And in fact, I was told that it would be better if I were to keep it myself.

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Bloody Mary took us around in the cemetery.

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She waited for messages to come to her from Marie Gleveau.

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That's interesting.

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What is it?

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It's a message.

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What's it mean?

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Come on over here. You have to wait now. If he's got his first message, come over here.

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We'll find a quiet spot for us.

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No, you stay here.

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Mirrors are very magical.

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So what's the significance of the mirrors?

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You can open up a little and be safe.

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You don't have to be such a macho guy.

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I think Mary had some very perceptive comments.

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Rob's attitude coming into this was a skeptic, but he was also kind of weirded out by dealing with Voodoo.

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And Mary saw that right away.

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Anytime you feel someone throwing anything negative at you, trying to take away from you,

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what you do is you use your real one, mirror, and you mirror it back.

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Mary definitely had some insight into my personality.

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I mean, you're going to have skeptics out there that are going to say her questions were leading or whatnot.

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I don't know. I think that there might be something to this check.

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Can I call her a check?

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I mean, that's good. It's gold.

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I didn't get a specific message from Marie LeVaux through Bloody Mary.

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Some of the other team members experienced an unexpected flood of feeling.

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Bill, who's very much a scientist.

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I got the feeling that he was not expecting to have the kind of emotions and feelings that he had.

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Touch that.

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At one point, I felt a sudden awareness of the memory of my father.

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I just suddenly became very aware of it.

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And it hit me like a ton of bricks, and I was really very emotional at that point.

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Was he happened to be a Navy man or a water man or anything like that, a boating person?

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A career military graduated from West Point.

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The message that Marie had for me was that I needed to be more aware of my ancestry

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and my heart and the continuum of my ancestry.

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This stone called out to me.

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My message to you is a little bit more, you know, female empowerment balance,

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which will put more passion in your life.

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Creative energy and things. You need to be rattled up.

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because I've had some frustrating experiences in the last couple of months.

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You're right.

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You're going to cry. You're going to be alright.

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that I think definitely she couldn't have known about otherwise.

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I really am.

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Relights kind of a tear more than a sad kind of tears.

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You're so aggrieved on.

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delivering through Bloody Mary to Debbie?

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I don't have an answer for that question, because I don't have a way of measuring it.

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Reality for me is things that can be measured.

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The rule in New Orleans is to walk out of a cemetery backwards.

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Again, like we're set.

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We're in a cemetery. It's a sacred place.

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Whether it was Voodoo, whether it was Marie LeVaux, I'm not sure.

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Thank you so much.

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It's an honor to be with you too. You're all very cool.

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We have a lot more investigating to do before we can find out if this stuff is real.

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Coming up, the sci-fi team uncovers the supernatural at a Voodoo ceremony.

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It was amazing.

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Who will get possessed?

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And later, Deborah searches for proof that Voodoo magic is real.

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Is she faking?

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When we return.

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Get my whites on.

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Ready to go to the St. John's Bayou and celebrate the evening of St. John.

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This could be the silliest thing I've ever done in my entire life,

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all in the name of an investigation.

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I mean, look at me. I look ridiculous.

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What we're going to do tonight is to participate in the ritual at St. John's Eve.

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Experiencing this Voodoo ritual is a crucial element in our investigation.

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It should allow us to evaluate firsthand if there is anything supernatural going on.

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Through my research, I found out that it's customary to wear white clothes

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because the ceremony is a sort of Voodoo baptism.

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We will be meeting and speaking with people who say they're actually possessed by the spirit of Marie LeVaux.

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Really the high point and the centerpiece of what we're all here to do

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is to participate in the most important local Voodoo ritual.

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It was led by Sally Ann Glassman, who is a Voodoo priestess.

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We're hoping that you can just tell us if there's anything we can do to prepare for the night.

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I expect the unexpected. Something will happen. We don't know what.

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But when the spirits show up, they take over and it's their show.

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I'm very curious about what actually I will see or even experience,

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whether anyone's going to be possessed.

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I'm going to be looking for signs that they truly are out of their own control

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versus that they're kind of manufacturing the appearance of being out of control.

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Anybody scared?

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Nervous, yes. Scared, no.

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Nervous.

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See you in here.

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Nervous.

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You know how I thought.

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That's good.

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That means you're free.

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I always stuff you with everybody.

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The story that we're telling tonight is going to weave together a Middle Eastern Baptist, John,

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and a Creole New Orleans Voodoo Queen, Marie LaVille.

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And we're asking her tonight to come out to anoint us.

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She's never left us.

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And we're asking her specifically tonight to help hold up our levies.

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Come forward, get your heads washed.

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I don't know what this head was and the thing.

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I mean, I just don't think this is my speed.

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It's a way of anointing yourself as if you were a spirit

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and you're making yourself sacred ground so the spirit can enter.

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But, you know, I figured, went in Rome and everybody else was doing it.

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I gave it a shot.

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I mean, afterwards I definitely felt rejuvenated.

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I got up and started dancing.

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While I was getting into it, I was also trying to keep an observant eye

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and looking around and just seeing was there evidence of something special, paranormal, unusual.

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All of a sudden the attention shifted over here and this glassman was on the ground looking paced.

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I looked over at Sally Ann and the expression on her face, it had completely changed.

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Either that woman is possessed or she's a really good actress.

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Madam, love, oh, my God.

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Whoever we were speaking to in Sally Ann Glassman, it wasn't the same woman that we spoke with earlier.

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I was standing by a skeptical and then Marie kind of grabbed me and wanted to talk to me.

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When she was moving him around, I was really interested to watch it

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because really something on his face just said that there was a change or something was working in him.

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She told me that I walk with a boo, which I guess means I walk with a blessing,

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which I gotta say is probably pretty right on.

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Marie LeBeau told me that this night was gonna spark a change for me

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and that I need to follow my heart.

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Marie said that there was something here tonight that would change my life

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and that it was right in front of me.

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The one event that is going to have me thinking for a while was when Sally, as Marie LeBeau came up to me.

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She took my hand and she was whispering into my ear.

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I had a strain and getting right next to her to hear her talking to me.

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And out of nowhere, I have no idea where this came from,

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but out of nowhere in my mind popped the question, water or rocks?

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She said, don't be afraid.

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Water will break through rocks. Water will course through rocks.

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It came to me. I don't even know what the question means.

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Water or rocks?

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There's no way, no way that man could have heard her say anything to me.

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I could barely hear her.

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I nearly fell over when he asked this question. It was amazing.

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Did you hear her talking to Meadle?

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I couldn't understand a single word, not with my hearing.

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She was talking about water and rocks to me.

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If there's anybody here who wants real proof, really wants to see something,

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wants facts, not suggestions, it's me. Rob's the skeptic.

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But I'm the one who just wants facts. I want to know the information.

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Now I don't know that I'm just kind of, whoa, this is pretty strange. Holy crap.

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Rob had to say was the most hesitant to get involved.

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And then he actually became the one, I think, who was the most compelled by Sally and Glassman.

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I think whatever happened is open to interpretation.

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I don't think it really counts as evidence that voodoo exists.

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All I can say is that I went into tonight with an open mind.

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I don't know if it was Marie, I don't know if it was a spirit or what it was,

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but there was something there.

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And I guess I, you know me, I don't make things up.

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Next, a voodoo priestess challenges Rob.

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I was scared.

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And later, what will the team uncover about black magic?

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I've heard of voodoo priestesses can turn people into zombies. Does it happen?

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When Sci-Fi Investigates Returns.

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One of the most important questions I think that we've brought to New Orleans is there supernatural powers that are outside the mind and outside the body?

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The team decided that the only way to know if Sally Ann was really possessed would be to take a tape of her to an expert to get it analyzed.

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So I tracked down and leading forensic psychiatrist Dr. N.J. Burrell. Nice to meet you.

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When I showed Dr. Burrell the tape of Sally Ann, he seemed to notice that her facial configuration has changed.

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Is she faking?

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In an altered state of consciousness, people would look different and people would act differently and they might relax muscles in the face

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or they tighten up and the face might look contorted.

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What is an altered state of consciousness?

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An altered state of consciousness is where time and space become either collapsed, expanded, the person's normal reality testing gets twisted around.

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Dr. Burrell said that if we gave Sally Ann a lie detector test, she probably would pass because in this culture of voodoo, people really believe what is going on is actually happening.

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I don't know of any tools that measure possession, if you will.

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Is there a way to scientifically prove that that woman isn't being possessed?

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We're talking about cultural beliefs here and we're not really talking about stuff that can be empirically tested or quantified and touched. I think it's impossible.

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Dr. Burrell really couldn't provide us with any definitive evidence.

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So the team's next step will be to meet with one of the most important voodoo priestesses in New Orleans who's really known for her dead-on predictions.

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We are going to see Priestess Miriam. She's basically going to show us some practical magic, practical voodoo.

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She's going to pick one of us for a kind of fortune telling called a bone reading. And this should be a good test.

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It ought to give us another opportunity to see if voodoo is for real.

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I'll tell you the one thing that really kind of freaked me out a little bit.

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When we all walked in together, Priestess Miriam kind of looked at me and there was a look in her eye.

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Wow.

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First she shook Rich's hand and then she shook Debbie's hand. Then she shook my hand and she was like, whoa, whoa, like...

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Oh my goodness. Hmm? Is it rock?

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Whoa, like, almost like she was seeing something else. I don't know if she recognized me from TV, but it felt like something more.

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And I'm Bill.

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Oh, all right.

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For whatever reason, Rob is like this voodoo magnet.

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Could you please have a seat then?

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Each place we've visited so far, the priestess has zeroed in on him and taken him under their wing.

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We are trying to investigate paranormal things, magic, claims of magic.

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I think we're interested in knowing when you're working magic what's going on there.

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When people come to us like they would go to a doctor for an examination and it could also be like the confession of voodoo for the priest.

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I have my bones that I cast. People like to see that you are doing this read and you're doing this investigation in their life.

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So this is your office?

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Yeah. This whole house is my office.

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So when people come to you, they're seeking help, guidance. It could be any kind of a problem, whether it's more in their heart, in their head, or in their body.

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The first thing we do is look at the person and how well they can receive thought.

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What Miriam does is help people get in touch with their own thoughts.

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And she does for people that come to her the same thing that shamans do for people in other cultures.

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I was scared. I mean, I don't know what it was, but something about just being there kind of freaked me out.

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The spiritual person is like the web or the spider we collect.

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In order to do that, I need a subject. We're going to see what emotion is ready for the table.

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This morning when we were getting ready to leave the hotel, Rob said, I don't want her to pick me.

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I don't want to be a part of this bone casting. And I said, I don't know why you're saying that, Rob.

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You know she's going to pick you.

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And so then you want to get her a reading? You feel that you need to get her more inside?

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I'll do it. I'll do it.

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Honestly, I was not surprised when Priestess Miriam picked Rob out of the four of us for the bone reading.

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And I think it's the kind of thing where, you know, if you're allergic to cats, the cats seem to pick you to come right up to.

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I don't know what it is, but there is definitely some attraction with the voodoo people and me.

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I can't figure it out. First, bloody Mary, then Sally last night on the bridge, and now Priestess Miriam today. What's the deal?

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He already spoke when he sat down. Sometimes a child speaks before he speaks.

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I get to understand I'm not on the level that you're on, and it freaks me out a little bit.

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I came into this with an open mind, but almost as a non-believer in a way.

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Twice you said that I spoke before I even sat down. How did you know?

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Well, spirit speak, not the human.

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She told Rob that his spirit or his energy was sending something to her, so she kind of zeroed in on that energy and wanted to talk to his spirit a little bit.

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You're ready to come to the doctor.

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I don't know if I'm ready, but I'm only giving a shot.

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Coming up. Rob's future is revealed by chicken bones.

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Finally, like she's rolling yatsia or something, she just let him go.

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And the rest of the sci-fi team uncovers the truth about zombies.

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I learned two different ways in which priestesses can make people into zombies.

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We left Rob at Priestess Maryam's, and the rest of the sci-fi team went to the New Orleans Historic Voodoo Museum.

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And there we went to look into the darker side of Voodoo, namely black magic.

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We went to visit Jerry Gandalfo in the Voodoo Museum.

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I hope it was going well. Okay.

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Which was great for us because he was a veritable mountainous knowledge about Voodoo, and especially about the supernatural aspect of Voodoo, which was what we were after.

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One of the things we've heard about is zombies in Voodoo, and that Voodoo priestesses can turn people into zombies.

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Is this real? Does it happen?

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Yeah, there's a lot of evidence of it.

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I learned two different ways in which priestesses can make people into zombies by either the person selling their soul to the devil, or through a chemical method from puffer fish.

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And I feel like it could actually, if the poison does exist, maybe it could work.

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You take that blowfish, you pulverize it, and it produces a poison called Sector of Doctrine.

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It will cause them to go into a death-like state.

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I asked Jerry Gandalfo about Voodoo dolls.

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I've been looking at these dolls here since I've gotten in, so I'd like to know, do these things work?

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They can work.

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His feeling was that they do work.

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A lot of it has to do with the intention of the person who's working that doll.

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Most of the people that we have talked to have really emphasized the point that it's the perception of the person who's in the middle of that Voodoo that really matters, and that creates the magic inside their heads.

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You must have come to your own opinion about what Voodoo is.

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Is it supernatural things? Is it magic?

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Voodoo in a nutshell is four things. First is the religion, where people believe in the spirits.

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Second is the superstition. Third is the folklore, which is an oral tradition that's handed down.

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Fourth is a fake lore, which is a use of folklore either for personal grandisement or for profit.

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I'll be honest with you, 99% of which is see people are faking.

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But that 1% is very hard to explain in any other way.

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Thank you.

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Have a good time.

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Great to meet you.

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I guess we should check on Rob at that time.

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Yeah, well, what he's doing is kind of nervous when he's left.

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I couldn't believe Priestess Maryam picked me for the bone reading.

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Can I have this?

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I know it's supposed to be like, you know, getting your fortune told, but she uses chicken bones.

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I gotta tell you, I was a little nervous being left alone with her when the rest of the team went off to the Voodoo Museum.

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Well, we're going to cast the bones and look at the inspiration of your life or experience or see what next.

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The first thing I noticed was that she was very methodical with the way she moved her hands.

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Finally, like she's rolling yatsia or something, she just let them go and they landed where they would.

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So you're married?

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I am.

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No, expecting?

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Nothing at all.

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Because it should be two boys and a girl.

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The girl child would come first.

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There's twins in your family?

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I didn't know it until she was born.

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The twins did run enough family.

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Priestess Maryam told me that I was going to have three children.

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First, the girl and two boys, twin boys, sometime in the future.

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25 was a big major change for you.

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I went on a television show for the first time.

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And since then, it's been a long time.

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I've been on TV for a long time.

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I've been on TV for a long time.

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I've been on TV for a long time.

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I was in jail for the first time.

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And since then, it hasn't been the same.

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The first time I went on Survivor, I was 25 years old.

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And that was a dramatic, life-changing thing for me.

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I mean, now I make my living doing television.

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I met my wife on Survivor All-Stars.

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It all started when I was 25 years old.

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And then you're 30 now.

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35 is going to be another major change or adjustment.

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It definitely did hit on a couple points, though.

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Like everything else on this trip, if you don't, like, really do it and experience it,

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you're not going to be able to investigate objectively.

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I'll tell you one thing.

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If I have a girl in December and then twin boys, I'm coming back.

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Next.

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Tonight, there's going to be a ritual here of Priestess Maryam's.

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And the sci-fi team dances with snakes.

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I'm totally crazy about snakes at that level.

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I'm really not afraid of anything except maybe the occasional snake.

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And calls up spirits from another realm when sci-fi investigates continues.

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After the bone reading,

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Priestess Maryam held a special voodoo ritual just for us in the Koyt Yadavur Temple.

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It was the last leg of our investigation into the paranormal.

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Tonight is a very special and honored time in history.

437
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I think I'm in store for something exotic.

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We have some dear friends here seeking a greater self-awareness.

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We want the sample, taste of spirituality, like taste of New Orleans.

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The purpose of the ritual was to bring out the voodoo spirits.

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You never know what's going to come out through those drums.

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They talk.

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We were told that the skull over there represents a spirit called Papagete.

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Apparently he likes rum, so they offered him some to get him to cooperate.

445
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They contact the spirit to get help with problems or to make a wish come true.

446
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Priestess Maryam told us that after the spirits are contacted,

447
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something called a veve is drawn on the ground.

448
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This is how the spirits know that they're being summoned.

449
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Tonight they summoned Urzuli, the goddess of love,

450
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just in case anyone was having trouble with their love life.

451
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I'm sure most of us can use some help with that.

452
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,000
One thing I'm noticing is that voodoo might be a tough thing

453
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for a skeptical, detached scientist to study.

454
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The reason is at a certain point you're going to start doing voodoo.

455
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:17,000
And if you start doing voodoo, you may just come away as a believer in the magic of voodoo.

456
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I found out the drums are used to call up the spirits.

457
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And tonight Maryam said she was using them to summon the serpent Dumballa,

458
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one of the most important spirits in the voodoo religion.

459
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Maryam told us the power of the spirits is transferred through the snake.

460
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You have to touch it to make your wish come true.

461
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Obviously we won't be getting any conclusive evidence out of this test.

462
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,000
Generally speaking, I gotta tell you, I'm really not afraid of anything.

463
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Except maybe the occasional snake.

464
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They just don't sit too well with me.

465
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,000
I don't know, I'm the tongue of the...

466
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Turn, boy, turn!

467
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Rob really did not like that snake at all.

468
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It's really sweet, see?

469
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,000
It's very sweet.

470
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But after I touched it, I think he was embarrassed that he was being a sissy.

471
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I don't want to make him mad.

472
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000
So he finally touched it.

473
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
You did it!

474
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
I touched him, what else do you want? I'm not wearing him.

475
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,000
I thought the intensity of the ceremony grew after Maryam pulled out the snake.

476
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,000
For these people, it is definitely real.

477
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You can see the changes that occur in them as the ceremony progresses.

478
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,000
I think we're looking at the present.

479
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Based on what I learned from Dr. Brell, I concluded that this woman was probably going through the same self-induced possession we had seen on the bridge.

480
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You're doing voodoo, you can't just look at it from the outside.

481
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
You gotta go in, you gotta do it.

482
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000
This is why voodoo hooks people, man, this is it.

483
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:48,000
I don't know if it was a paranormal, I don't know if it was a spirit.

484
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
There's no conclusive evidence that I have to prove or disprove that.

485
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:03,000
We came here to learn about voodoo, and she asked tonight if we found what we were looking for.

486
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
I found what I was looking for, I experienced voodoo.

487
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:15,000
I think voodoo as a whole is real to go to, put their will into it, put their mind into it, really believe it.

488
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000
When you believe it, it becomes real to you.

489
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
This is a wild rock and roll gospel send party here.

490
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000
It's a voodoo party.

491
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
It's a celebration of life.

492
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Next, the sci-fi team examines the evidence and comes to some surprising conclusions.

493
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:48,000
There were things that happened this weekend that under absolutely no circumstances can I explain.

494
00:39:49,000 --> 00:40:05,000
After our ritual with Miriam, and all the weird things we experienced over the weekend, it was time for a team to brief on what we had uncovered about voodoo.

495
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,000
I'll tell you, I really came into this weekend a little bit apprehensive.

496
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000
I wasn't really sure what to expect.

497
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,000
And definitely a little guarded.

498
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,000
I've been looking into fringy paranormal issues for about 12 years now.

499
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:39,000
And I do personally believe that it's a much stranger world that we live in than our common sense, and even our science typically tells us.

500
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:48,000
There were things that happened this weekend that under absolutely no circumstances can I explain.

501
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Everything from being singled out over and over again.

502
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Wow. Yeah, that was interesting.

503
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,000
To the salient thing last night.

504
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:08,000
I'll tell you 100%, 100% I am convinced in my mind of this.

505
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:23,000
When salient supposedly invoked Marie LeVaux and I spoke with her, I'll tell you, it was not salient that I was talking to.

506
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000
It was very different.

507
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,000
There were definitely physiological changes that we could see in salient's demeanor.

508
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
She certainly didn't look or sound like the same person.

509
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Whether it was a self-induced hypnosis or the real thing is open to debate.

510
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Where's the paranormal? We came here to look at the paranormal.

511
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,000
The paranormal was you asking that question.

512
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Water for rocks.

513
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000
How did you know to ask that question?

514
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,000
It popped into my head.

515
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,000
It popped into your head. There's some coincidence.

516
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:06,000
We all had a moment at some point during this weekend where we felt like wow, that was like something, I don't know if you can call it magic or if you can call it very normal.

517
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000
But you never forget it.

518
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:18,000
But it would seem to me if we want to investigate the paranormal, the first thing to do is probably to find what do we mean by paranormal?

519
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
How are we going to recognize it when we see it?

520
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000
That's a great question.

521
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:28,000
And I think that if we say we recognize it because it was really weird, that's not going to work.

522
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,000
You can't understand or study voodoo from without.

523
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,000
But you have to get inside it, especially because it's all about the experience of it.

524
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:49,000
I have a suspicion that there are maybe dimensions of reality beyond which we normally have a hard time perceiving.

525
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,000
But every once in a while maybe we can get a glimmer of it.

526
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Let's call that the paranormal, all right?

527
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000
You want to call it that.

528
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000
And I do believe personally that this weekend we got a glimpse into it.

529
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
We got a glimpse into it.

530
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
To hunting the Mothman in West Virginia.

531
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,000
I don't like this. I don't like this.

532
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:32,000
The team waits deeper into the unknown using forensic science and archaeology.

533
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Bill, we got a hint.

534
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Questioning witnesses.

535
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
The people here are convinced that strange happenings go on.

536
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Questioning themselves.

537
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
I am an amateur pathologist for the record.

538
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Here we go.

539
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
You think you know everything.

540
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000
This, right?

541
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
And this, it's not real.

542
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,000
All across the country, strange creatures.

543
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,000
Look at this. Look at that.

544
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Oh my God.

545
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Paranormal hotspots.

546
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
There's cash over there. It's very hot.

547
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Evidence of life after death.

548
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Do you see the red light?

549
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
This thing just went haywire for a second.

550
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,000
And only online, the team goes for a ride on America's Highway to Hell.

551
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,000
A special webisode series only on sci-fi.com.

552
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Four different experts.

553
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,000
Beer and hamburgers.

554
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Then you're doing our challenge.

555
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,000
Four different perspectives.

556
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
I want to get into it. We can get into it.

557
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Here we go.

558
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
One mission. Find the truth.

559
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000
I heard it.

560
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
It's on there.

561
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,000
I heard it.

562
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,000
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